Kyla Martin—Find Courage and Start Your Entrepreneur Journey

Kyla Martin—Find Courage and Start Your Entrepreneur Journey

Ready to leave your day job, say goodbye to corporate America, and discover a life full of fulfilling entrepreneurship with God? Meet Kyla Martin. Kyla is a Career Coach. She teaches people how to use their brain to achieve the life of their dreams through Kingdom business and the entrepreneurship journey. This includes uncovering your purpose while peacefully charting an action plan to pursue your flexible, freedom-based, dream life.

Kyla believes you already possesses what you need to create the life of your dreams. Using simple language, she teaches you how to access it by:

1. Uncovering your career “zone of genus.”

2. Understanding and navigating the fear and belief systems holding you back.

3. Creating an action and accountability plan to go get your dream career.

This episode covers the topics of starting a business, discovering your gifting, hacking your brain, courage, Holy Spirit, and building a dream life in business.

Resources from the show:

Jesus Calling by Sarah Young

The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks

The Creators Code by Amy Wilkinson

Transcript
Kyla Martin:

Hi, this is Kyla Martin with Kyla Martin Coaching. And if you want to create an impactful kingdom business, you should be listening to the eternal entrepreneur podcast with my good friends, Joe Newton and Pierce Brantley

Pierce Brantley:

On the Eternal Entrepreneur, we believe faith comes by hearing. And so do business skills, you'll hear powerful stories and strategies to grow your business directly. From Christian leaders who've done it all before. Catch us on Mondays for lunch breaks are bite sized business series and twice a month on Fridays for faith inspiring interviews. Hello, and welcome back. Thank you for joining us for another episode of eternal entrepreneur. I I am Pierce Brantley along with my co-host, Joe Newton. And we could not be more excited to share a conversation with Kyla Martin. Kyla helps you create the career in life. You imagined by discovering your zone of genius while charting an action plan to pursue your dream life. Prior to her creating her coaching practice, she spent 25 years in corporate companies where she helped others uncover their destiny.

Joe Newton:

It is so good to have you on today. Welcome to the Eternal Entrepreneur.

Kyla Martin:

Thank you so much for having me what a blessing to be here with you two.

Joe Newton:

I liked to jump in the episode with giving a little context about our guests journeys into entrepreneurship. And I know yours especially is a valuable one because you both went on this journey from corporate America into owning and operating your own business. And now you're helping others do. That's similar journey. Can you kinda tell us how did this end up? Was this something that you knew you wanted to be an entrepreneur from the time you were young? Or is it later in life that you decided to make this jump?

Kyla Martin:

Yeah, such a good question. Absolutely not. I did not know any entrepreneurs, so we we were not to a family of entrepreneurs. My parents both grew up in, more traditional vocational families and. So I definitely thought that entrepreneurs were born and not made and I was not born to be an entrepreneur or so it was really whispers that God had discontinued to put on my hearts and, even through others I remember probably. In my mid thirties, I was working in corporate America. I was at the pinnacle of success as a speech writer and coaching executives, and some of the most well-known companies in the world. And, but I knew something was missing. There was a greater calling. I could never put my finger on. And my sister was actually the first one who said, have you ever thought about coaching? Full time. And that was one of the whispers. I started putting them together with other whispers. I'd always been interested in psychology. I wanted to actually to major in psychology, but we didn't, again, you don't know what you don't know. We didn't know anyone who'd majored in psychology who would, gone on to that field. And that really starts to color your lens for a path that you can't see where that's going. But it's interesting because the whispers had been there all along and I in graduate school, I took a lot of psychology classes. I was constantly giving my family personality tests, which they loved. And yet again, I still hadn't connected the dots. And I talk about helping my clients uncover their zone of genius. That's not my term. It's from a beautiful book called The Big Leap. And part of what this author talks about is that most of the world is functioning in their zone of excellence, which is things that they're good at things that can continue to find success in and things that come naturally to them. But not things that give them the feeling of, I will do this for free. I would do this, in the middle of the night, I would do this. If I had five minutes of extra time, this is always what I would be doing. I can't believe this is a job. And so I began to understand what that sort of genius was supposed to actually feel like. And it was a lot of the things that I was doing in my personal life for fun. I was always the person that my family, who everyone asked to look at their resume and I would look at the resume and always have the same reaction, which was, I want to help you. Better connect the dots with what you're really supposed to be doing. And the resume to me was the symptom of what they, they were looking for a different job or a different company. But in reality, when we got to the truth, it was always, they were in the wrong thing that most of them were in their zone of excellence. They weren't in their zone of genius. And so all of that started. When I look back, it started very early and they were whispers that were scary, that it didn't have context for that we didn't have a path forward for. And so it just kept pushing them down. That's what led to the very foundational moment was. When my then boyfriend now, husband we went to a conference at gateway church in the Dallas area called ID. And it was about finding your true calling. And in life and it was so beautiful because it combined your spiritual strengths and strength finders. So the two pastors that we did are certified strength coaches through Gallup, which I thought was such an interesting intersection. And they talked a lot about how, we each had a very specific purpose that only we could fulfill that God put a pursuit on our heart. We were the only people on the planet that could do. And so you left the weekend with a basic ambition statement for your life. And it was really in that moment that I couldn't ignore this anymore. And I knew that I had to start moving in the direction of coaching and it really started with, maybe I find a coaching job with a company. But as I started that process, what I realized was the gifts that God had given me were really the formation of my own misery as they were. I couldn't necessarily identify a job where I could put the pieces together. One of my passions is creating and teaching content. My, my degrees, my undergraduate degree is in journalism. And I realized that I really wanted that to be part of it. The coaching practice was the teaching and applying the information because that's really where I've seen exponential success and change in my clients.

Pierce Brantley:

I think you mentioned something I'd love to go a little bit deeper on that. It's such a revelation. Which is, you mentioned resumes, almost being a symptom. And I know for many folks who are trying to transition, they want to transition and they're looking at their resume and saying, I have all of these things that say maybe I can just move this into doing this for myself. But something about that gives me anxiety. Something about that as a leader. Sort of soul killing and I think that's really powerful. How did you recognize that the resume itself and the list of things I've done is almost symptomatic of something that may be leading you to something now.

Kyla Martin:

I think one of my, one of my favorite quotes is seek first understand. And so when I would start helping a family member or friend with their resume, I was wanting to understand how did they arrive, where they were and then where did they actually want to go? Because, I, myself had faced so many of these questions that if I just get a different job or if I just have a different manager, or if I just have, a different version of what I'm doing, then I will find what's missing in my life. And so what I found when I often found during the resume process was I gave them a space to acknowledge what they really wanted to do. And in fact, I also found the same. I could give people the same space when I was managing people in corporate America. So I actually behind the scenes, I can tell people things you get in trouble for, excuse me, can be some of your greatest strengths. And I was constantly trying to help people leave their jobs because I could tell that they weren't in the right thing. They were creating a. A, an acquired state throughout the day and their natural state was something very different. And the bigger, the gap between your current state and your natural state, the more energy you have to put forward, the more exhausting it is. And I feel like that's what creates so much of the tension and frustration in our day to day lives. I actually think it's the cause of so much of, that's underlying tension that shows up even in the form of like road rage. I just, I feel like the pressure creates so much tension in someone's life that it starts to manifest. And the way they're interacting in the world. And so I think it was just holding space for that conversation and asking the question that no one had asked before, which was, what do you really want to do? And which parts of these jobs did you really love? And it was probably about that same time when I was starting to work on people's resumes, that I also became really passionate about the strengths, the strength finder assessment. And really seeing, this person is naturally gifted in these areas. So why wouldn't they move more into those areas? And you can become exponentially better at what you're already good at and only incrementally better at what you're not good at. And so why wouldn't we move you into? And then I realized they were really bumping up against all the things I was bumping up against, which was their fear, which was. I don't have a, I don't have context for this. I don't have a plan for this. There's, there's so much scarcity thinking that is, I think the work of the enemy, to stay where we are and not pursue the life that God really intended for us.

Pierce Brantley:

You mentioned that, oftentimes the energy that we're putting into something, especially like in a nine to five is different. Completely to how we approach building something for ourselves, or even how we approach our days. And I think that's really significant because oftentimes when we transitioned. Into working for ourselves or into building something, especially if we're in a nine to five type of role, there's that angst because we know that there's freedom. On the other side of it, we know that there's more control of our lives and even pursuing the things God has given us oftentimes to go do those things. But you have almost a dualistic mindset where you think. I have to approach when I'm about to go into the same way of approach, what I'm going into, and that creates some of that scarcity mindset and the anxiety that you just mentioned. So I'm curious. So when you help people discover that, is it, is that like shackles coming off? Do they go do a dance around the cubicle sort of thing? What what is it? I imagine for many people it's very transformative.

Kyla Martin:

Yeah. And I think, when someone first gives you that idea that there is a path to the freedom, because we were sitting in corporate America, what we think is I have to jump off the cliff. I have to quit my job. I have to do something that's wanting. And I feel like one of the things that God has really helped me give people and I used it myself was Bridget. To where you are and where you're going. And for me, that, that was in the form of, I did a lot of consulting work in between and I still do consulting work in between, leaving corporate America and then creating my own business because I did provide financial security. And honestly it also was an inroad to a digital coaching business. So I think, giving people. You into things that they hadn't necessarily thought of, like the amount of consulting work that's out there, which is enormous by the way. But corporate America is not telling you that because to some degree they lead you to stay in your lane. And so I think that. Giving them a pathway that helps them feel safer can be the difference between sort of their idea in their head of, I have to jump off the cliff too. This can be a transition and it takes, continued understanding of what's happening in their brain that, we're so primed on a primal basis, driven to efficiency. And seeking pleasure and avoiding pain that all of those things start to bump up against our dream life. And so we have to help them. Understand what's happening in their brain. And then how they can move through that. And then certainly how they can continue to listen to all the whispers along the way, because that is that's the ultimate co-creator. I'm a vessel, but the Koch, the master co-creators is out there for you to continue to listen to. And for me, the more of that. I spend time in quiet reflection with God. The more that I, I am given some of those steps and even encouragement that you are on the right path. You just need to continue being you. I've given you all the gifts you need. To do this, but I think it's a process of continuing to relearn because it's so much of our mindset in corporate America is you follow the rules. There's processes in place, there's guard rules in place. And when you're a solopreneur, so much of that, you have to create yourself. I've become really involved with the women's entrepreneurial Alliance because they have provided a lot of the foundational areas that I didn't have expertise in legal, things like that. And so I think partnering, with obviously you see the holy spirit, other people potentially a coach and organization and mastermind along the way can really help you with that. The other areas of entrepreneurship that you may not have, exposure experience. And you can really walk that in, in partnership, which is so powerful because let's face it solopreneurship is it can be very lonely. And I think it's incredibly important to find community of like-minded resources for that community to help you walk in a place that is. Going to serve your business, but then also, partnering with people who bring expertise in other areas so that we can all stay in Arizona genius because for many solopreneurs, that's why they went into their own business. Freedom flexibility, but also being able to really stand it, truth of what they were put on this earth to do. And I think solopreneurship, sometimes you can become too distracted by I need to learn this area or that area and having awareness, those areas I fully believe in, partnering with experts so that you can really stay in your lane is also incredibly powerful.

Pierce Brantley:

It's very powerful and something powerful that you mentioned. Was when you're in corporate America, you mentioned the kind of the consulting work that's out there and a massive amount of opportunity that's there. So often we think that, when we move into something new. When you're going up the ladder, it's a very performance mindset type thing. Am I moving to the next wrong? Am I moving to the next wrong? You mentioned finding a quiet time and space with the holy spirit. Tell you how he sees you. That's so important because you're not working from a perspective of what's the next wrong you're working from a perspective of identity and you actually get more done that way. You actually are a lot more effective. That way, your impact is a lot higher because you are resting in your giftings. You're not trying to. Retrofit yourself into getting somewhere a little bit farther. And so I really appreciate you saying that because I think it's, I think it's something we miss out on because we're so quick to just jump into the lane, hit it hard, go after it, go and try and, make this thing happen partially from a place of anxiety, a place of lack. And then what happens is we burn ourselves out doing our own thing because we're not actually operating from a place. Of rest. And I just, I really value you articulating that for those who are struggling or they're looking to step into this for the first time you mentioned community being a great thing. I'm curious. What are some of the pitfalls, because I know you understand psychology and everything's so well, what are some of those things that we naturally. Fall into that. You've seen with your clients that, are things moving. We don't even recognize that we're doing that can be barriers to helping us succeed.

Kyla Martin:

Yeah, absolutely. I was mentioning, I was listening to one of your earlier podcasts with Jeremy and he was talking about sometimes when we. We move into something and it doesn't work out the way we thought it was when we say we didn't hear the holy spirit. That was that. I must've been wrong about that. And I think that's where rest is so important because that's when we really can hear that direction. Sometimes it's confirmation, right? Sometimes it's encouragement. Because you're our brains love always never cause it's true. Our brains trying to be efficient at all times. Because back in the day, if we got too tired, we may not be able to go get food. Our brain is just very wired for these biological primal urges. And so your brain has always been to offer you that you need to decide black or white, where something is going and in reality, It takes time to really uncover and try things out. And so I think for me, creating some safety with the consulting, gave my brain some space to really sit with and really listen to where the holy spirit wanted me to go because. Sort of in that scarcity or fear, which particularly for women, fear and anxiety really shows up for, I think that's really how the enemy uses uses, that terror for just say, stay where you are. And I think a pitfall can be making that making, I tried something and it didn't work out making a mean that, this is all, I should just go back to a job in corporate America, which is certainly for my clients who are, considering transitioning a lot of them get nervous and go back to a full-time job for a period of time. I did the same thing. I was on my own for about a year. And then I got scared and stopped listening to the whole. And just let, that primal fear take over. And I went back and. The day I got the offer. I knew I'd made a huge mistake. I hadn't even started and I knew I'd made a huge mistake. And I thought, okay, this, you've made a commitment, I've signed the contracts. And so I decided I was going to use that year or, and really again, it's going to give me some financial stability and I'm going to use that year to continue to expand. What the holy Spirit's putting on my heart and how, my business was going to be structured, what areas I really wanted to be focused on. So I think fear, I believe fear is the one thing that separates us from the life that we imagined living. And that's why I'm so passionate about helping people understand where fear comes from and knowing that it's going to be there. And that's okay. And I think, especially for women, sometimes that can feel like our intuition, which can be confusing. But our, what I was telling my clients is you're because the vast majority of my clients are women. Your intuition will always serve your vision your sort of longer term, whispers that God has put on your hearts. And then fear will always sound like you can't do that. You're not enough. This may not work out right. All of those things. And that's really how you can differentiate, which can be. Again, some unlearning that we have to do, because I think for women, we rely on our intuition so much that we really have to discern, when it's intuition, when it's fear, when it's the holy spirit. And again, for me I find the quiet time is when I can really discern that better. And when, for me, it always starts with a kind of a little tap and then it becomes louder and louder. And that's how I know. This is really, where I need to keep going, but I think just knowing that fear is going to come and that's okay is probably the thing. Is the game changer for someone, considering walking on their own. And it's certainly something that is, it's always with me, but now I looked at it as almost like a third party. Like I see your fear and I know that you think you're trying to protect me, but there's not a tiger chasing. So I see you. And if there's some lessons, I will always be open to those, some watch outs, but for the most part, I don't need you anymore. And and that ultimately builds a habit. You can build a new neural pathway in your brain for, and you have it. And eventually you can quiet it because it becomes a habit of, I see you, but I don't really need you in.

Joe Newton:

I love your example there just from your own life, as far as I made the wrong decision. And that was okay because that verse, God turns all things to good, to the, those who love him. I think that's so important, especially when viewing it from the point of an entrepreneur solopreneur, that one it's okay to fail and to. You're gonna fail. You're gonna fail a lot. All right. Looking back at so many examples of successful entrepreneurs, I feel like all of them are, their stories are lined with, two bankruptcies. I lost the farm, I did this but the differences is that they continue to get back up on the horse, w what's that proverb, though, a righteous man may fall. X number of times, seven times, 70 times something fail a lot. He always gets back up. And I think that's such a good example that quote unquote, you made the wrong choice. You failed, but you said, how can I make the most of it? How can I now go back and partner with God to turn this to.

Kyla Martin:

Absolutely. And I learned so much that year. We worked really closely with incredibly cutting edge consultants. And I spent a lot of my time watching them and really understanding how they communicated their value, how they provided value. And I looked at myself as, I'm a consultant within this organization. I became a lot more open about what I would be on a conversation with someone that was work-related and they gave me an opening for, oh this isn't real. I really want to be doing, which you'd be surprised how many times that happens on business calls, oh, what'd you do this weekend? Oh, I did this. Oh, is that your, tell me more about that. And those ended up becoming some clients, so yes, God does use everything and. And I think it's all part of our story. My clients need to know that I felt fear and I made a decision that, it wasn't ideal, but it still served me. And so as they sometimes take one step forward and two steps back that's okay. We're just going to keep, we're going to keep going and exploring. And everyone's journey is their own. Their timing is their own. And I think that's. For her entrepreneurs, that is the greatest lesson is that you, there is no playbook for this, right? We're, each of us, we can all try to find a magic bullet following someone else. And, oh their success story was this. So I'm going to follow what they did, but in reality, people want to work with each of us because of who we are. And the approach that we take and that's no other. So the only person who can create that journey and that experience with our business is. And I think the more we stand in that truth, the more the, and I don't call anything failure. I call it learning. There's more information now than I have yesterday. So all of that learning serves us in some way, and God does use everything for good. And I will say, God cast a really clear vision on the heart of my now husband and I for. His business and my business and the days that I feel scared, I just think about that. I think about God passes vision for a reason, and I'm just going to keep following it. I don't exactly know how we're going to get there, but he does. And so I'm just going to stand in, that faith and try to be still. And here, where he wants you to go down.

Pierce Brantley:

One of the things that I've done in my own life, because I'm a hyper analytic person very analytical. But I do have a relationship with the holy spirit as well. And one of the things I've had to learn with this type of journey is. W in business, you talk about being like data-driven right. And how important that is. And it really is important, even though sometimes you don't understand what that means. But what I've realized is that when the holy spirit tells me something, when he gives me direction and I can distinguish that from my intuition, I am actually being data-driven. Because he knows better than I do. And I can count on that data point for me. I know that sounds like it takes all of the intimacy and the relationship out of it. It doesn't, it creates a lot of trust that when he says something that is something concrete, I might as well put it on a dashboard because he's said it and I can follow that really clearly my own intuition on the other hand is actually only informed by all of them. The things in my peripheral that I think my subconscious is telling me as strong as it feels. It doesn't actually lead me forward. Like he leads me forward. And so I dunno, it's a hack that really works for me when I'm thinking about going on my own journeys.

Kyla Martin:

No, that's so good. That's so good. I think, we're in the process of building out this land for my husband's business and, there are days when I. What, how is this going to work out? But I, again, we just keep following the vision and sometimes the vision, all of the house steps are not necessarily in there. And you try some things and you try, you ask for some more guidance, but I think, when you have the vision of where you're going, then you know that it, somehow it's going to work out along the way. So I think it's whatever we all have. What I love is that we all have this very different experience with the holy spirit are, the things that I need to hear is very different from what each of you need to hear in my husband. And so I think it's whatever works for you that, provides that encouragement, the sort of, direction in whatever way that shows up for me. It's very much in the. The sort of encouraging whispers. And I often feel that the strongest when I'm in nature, that's when I feel the most connected to God. And so being on 26 acres now and actually living on our land is I feel like there's, the whispers are so much easier to access because there is so much more quiet time. Our life is so much simpler now and just being in a tiny house. Having all this land to explore and and it just feels very foundational to the vision is right in front of us. And we just are taking kind of the little steps every day to get closer to it.

Joe Newton:

I'm curious when your clients come to you and you're first starting to work with them, is there a specific. Process that you take them through to define what their fears are or what specific steps that are there they're going to need to take to make that transition.

Kyla Martin:

Absolutely. So most of my clients show up and they will tell you. I'm not going to leave corporate America. I just know I'm in the wrong thing. That's how that's probably how they would present as it were. And so I always start them with have these pre coaching session questions that I always ask. And it's a combination of getting to the root of their fear and then also uncovering their zone of genius. Because again, the vast majority of people are working on theirs. And they've become really good at it. And so then there's a lot of affirmation. There's a lot of self-confidence in that. And so one of the things we have to do is acknowledge how we can use all of that, their journey up until now. To be continuation because a lot of my clients are like what I want to start over. So I would never start my own business because that's starting over. But as we do the uncovering and I asked him questions about, what would you, what do you find yourself doing anyway? What do you get lost in? What's not on your to-do list. That's a really good question. What are you doing? For, I'm scrolling psychology articles. That's what I'm doing. And I was giving them an example of what that looks like. And then we can start to create the picture. And I was thinking of it like a puzzle. So they start to give me what's important to them. And that kind of creates the corners right there. They're foundational belief systems, what they want for their life, bigger, from a bigger perspective, right? Not just the career purpose, but their life. And then they start to give me some of the pieces of, what they love to do, what people ask for help, from maybe friends with family, what people ask for. When they have to be something they're not, that's another really good question. So then we can start to see blue. We don't know if that sky or ocean yet, but we just continue to uncovering. Then they usually get to a point where the rubber meets the road and they start to panic about how am I going to turn this into whatever a career change or my own business potentially. And so then we get into what I call police system questions. So we ask them. What were the messages you received growing up about things like money, entrepreneurship financial security, all the things that, kept them in, probably their zone of excellence of things that, they are good at, but again, not what they were put on this planet to do. And that really starts to form the picture of what we're working with. Then we work on how we want to take those belief systems and decide whether they serve us or not. And if we want to beautifully, gently shed some of them. So they were all given to us with love. And the greatest of intention is everything is it's given to us. It's probably out of sphere from another generation, so my my mom had a dad who was basically an entrepreneur and her life financially was very insecure. And so that informed right, being an entrepreneur can be financially insecure. So we want to extract what got them to here. That's going to be an obstacle for their fear. And then again, almost take it out of the brain, put it on plate and look at it and decide again, does this still serve you? Is this even true? And then we might create what I call some bridge beliefs. So is it possible that entrepreneurs can have a financially secure life? Is it possible? It's possible. I see some other people out there. I I'm sure the unicorns, but so we start to create some bridge beliefs and then decide again, what would serve you, if you want, if you wanted to believe anything, what would that be? And then we start to move toward those. And then that creates some stability to, again, some of those belief systems that they have. And then again, we start creating some bridges, whatever that looks like. This is a side hustle or, we're gonna get some consulting in the meantime, but it's interesting because I never set out to become an entrepreneur. And most of my clients won't either, but a lot of them ended up. As an entrepreneur, because what they realize is they can combine all those beautiful zones that maybe there's not a traditional job for. And they can also create freedom and flexibility in a way that serves the other goals they have in their life. Which is just as important. We also spend a lot of time working on what do you want your assertive? I call them outcomes to be so very much. Steven cubby start with the end. So if we started with the end and then move backwards then we know what steps to take. If we're standing here, we're trying to figure out the next 25 years, your brain is always going to try to stop you. The fear will be, can come almost paralyzing. So I want to do this in a way where we're always being cognizant of, where the fear is coming from, and then what we can do to slowly Create a bridge, to the other side of fear. And again, just knowing it's going to be there and that's okay. It doesn't mean it doesn't mean that's the reason to stop.

Pierce Brantley:

And, someone is made that decision to even with the presence of fear, move from the zone of excellence, into that zone of genius. Is there ever, and it may not be, but is there ever like a. A grieving period, realizing that I've put a lot of energy into something that didn't necessarily articulate who God is seen me as, or even necessarily what I would find the most fulfillment from. Do you ever see that? Is there a processing period or do you just throw out the shackles and run forward? No, I

Kyla Martin:

think there's absolutely a processing period and this is why I'm such a big believer in helping them to understand that. This is all part of the journey, right? God knew this was going to be or journey. This is part of almost the plan of him using everything, for good and everything that, that happened to you up until now is part of your journey as part of your story, as part of your empathy and understanding for others, because you walked, in a similar journey and it's also. I think so much of what we do, particularly when you're in a high function company in corporate American, you take for granted. Just something simple, like being able to run a zoom call. All of us take that for granted, but there's a lot of people out there that don't know how to run a zoom call. We found that out in the last year. So all the things that you take for granted that you learned up until now, you can use. And so we talk, I talk a lot with my clients about the continuation and there is, I think that there is, creating some. Some peace in, that transition that does have to happen grieving. Ultimately, you get to peace, but the more that we focus on that, that is all part of the journey that led you up to. I would never have the passion I have for my business. If I hadn't been on the journey at Amazon, if I hadn't bumped up against. This is not what I'm supposed to be doing. And in a pretty painful way. I, there was a lot of darkness that surrounded my transition and ally has started to have all kinds of medical issues that no one could explain. And in reality, that was because there was this gap again between natural state and acquired state. So I was having to create all of this energy all day long and then my cup was empty and then I would, and then I'd have to, the cycle would continue. And I think, acknowledging that transition is really important, but also knowing, God is going to use everything and our journey is our journey. It's a broken world. We're all, we're all doing the best we can. And it's it's that, added when you know, better, you do better. And you're that aha. Whenever it came, unfortunately for most people that I work with at Kane in a pretty dramatic way in a, I get a lot of people that show up who have been laid off that's my story. I started my coaching. Business. And I have a whole work back plan and I kept putting off when I was going to quit because I didn't feel safe enough with, I don't have enough money. I don't have enough clients, whatever. And then I got laid off completely unexpectedly. I It was a shock. And but because I'd been working on this plan I w I had some things in place that gave me a calm, what had happened that I knew. Okay, God had to push you in the water, but now you're in the water. That's all that matters. And so it's funny because the day I got laid off, they offered me several of the jobs in the company. I was like, why would I take another job? And my then boyfriend now husband was like, I think you should think about those. You still need a transition, and I just knew in my soul. God put this mission statement on my life, through that conference, we went to, and I was so resolute in, no, this was all the way it was supposed to happen. And so I took my big fat severance, which I'm so grateful for. And that gave me, again, some financial security to continue to build and then started consulting and, still got scared a few years later, but. It, it's all part of the learning. And I think what you can pass on to the next generation, the, pay it forward of the wisdom that you can bring.

Joe Newton:

I love that The way he pushes us sometimes. And even I feel like I'm reminded of another mentor of mine who has a saying something along the lines of what do you know that you're not wanting to admit to yourself? And I feel like that's a lot of what you're saying. It's like those little whispers have been poking at you for years and years. And then finally, God says boot, I'm going to help you step out of the boat. I'm just going to tip it over. Yeah, it's a journey, but we get there. Hey I want to honor your time. We need to transition to our final five questions that we ask on every episode. So we're going to jump in to those. So we have question number one. What are your top three must read books, not including the Bible and these can be business, family, spiritual, even your favorite cook.

Kyla Martin:

Yes. So three, I would say that have been instrumental in my journey. Jesus' calling the first one, I think again, for women and the attacks us a lot with anxiety, fear, uncertainty all those things. And Jesus calling is just such a beautiful Testament to. The such a applicable way of looking at so much of the wisdom, that God has for us. And it just in a, and in my darkness, Jesus calling when I was really in that transitional time, Jesus calling was just such a refuge and continues to be. So I loved Jesus calling. And you've heard me mentioned the the big leap. So another. Game-changing book for me to understand and give language to, the difference between being really exceptional at something, and then being called to something, which is what I feel like coaching is for me now. I feel like that is literally my calling from a faith perspective. We, we understand very clearly what a calling. And then the third book that was really a game changer for me. And again, it was changing a belief system that entrepreneurs are not necessarily born, and most of them are made as a book called the creators code. It was written by a Stanford researcher and she looked at. Some of the top 10 entrepreneurs well-known entrepreneurs and mean people like LinkedIn, the founder, the guy who invented Underarmour, walk on football player, university of Maryland who sweat a lot. And it was really a competitive advantage if he could manage this better. So he started looking at material and found a seamstress in town. Here we have a billion dollar company these days. So that book really helped me understand that the vast majority of entrepreneurs are just solving their own crap. And that's what I was doing. I was trying to figure out how I could use my brain to move toward the life that I had to the life that I wanted, which was always this dream life that I would picture as I sat in my corporate cube and stared up the window and thought about this life that I really wanted to have. And so that was instrumental and seeing evidence for which I think sometimes I brains. Physical evidence or I'll look at all these people who were just solving problems. They were not, they didn't set out to be entrepreneurs. So that could be me too. That's

Joe Newton:

awesome. Those are three. Great. I love the eclecticness hitting the mind, soul and sweat. All right. Question number two, you can send a note card back to yourself when you're first starting off on your entrepreneurial journey. What are the three pieces of advice you're putting on that card?

Kyla Martin:

The three pieces of advice. Number one, fear is always going to be with you. If I had known that from the beginning, I would have settled into it. And knowing that it's just kind of part of the deal. No problem. No, it just sits there. Number two is enjoy the journey. I think as entrepreneurs, we can become very focused on the outcome, the progress, being able to see how financially this is going to work. And so enjoying the process is something that I continue to work on. I actually have a visit word for this year that says peace requires presence. And that is, I think, as an entrepreneur, something that, the more you can hear those whispers create time of listening, of being still, that is where all the wisdom comes from. And the third one is it was always supposed to be this way. At the beginning, I definitely had a lot of if I just majored in psychology, like I wanted to, if I had just, started down this road, but this is the journey and this is why I have the privilege of teaching people how to move. Because if I hadn't been on that journey, I wouldn't have that experience that I could give someone else how to transition. So it was all supposed to be that way. And all of all of those pieces of the puzzle are still there. That's you, I think I continue to learn. So our wisdom continues, that sort of the challenge and the wisdom continues to follow you and it becomes the next iteration. So I look at fear very differently than I did in the beginning, but it is interesting to think back and I'm real big on using your future self to give you wisdom, there's a book about inter mentoring. And it's using what the three of us would call the holy spirit, but it is using all the wisdom that's already inside of you, but the God has put on your soul and just accessing that.

Joe Newton:

Yeah. I love leveraging the holy spirit. If you're going to partner with the guy who literally breathed it into the dirt and someone jumped up, it's a competitive advantage. We should probably take full advantage of both in the marketplace and in our quiet place. Question number three, how do you define success for yourself?

Kyla Martin:

Yes it's it's based on those outcomes I talked about. So I find outcomes for my life. There is there's one that's career purpose which is helping people uncover and activate their purpose. There is a spiritual purpose to continue growing my walk with God. There is a one about marriage, which I wrote long before I got married to my amazing husband continuing to grow, our. Our covenant journey together. Our shared vision for our marriage and for the land that we have. I also have a an outcome around helping my niece and nephew find their purpose and don't have kids, but they're my kids. And it's been incredible to watch them in their uncovering and and be again the a piece of the vessel toward that. And then continuing to grow, in, in every sense of the word I am, one of my strengths is learner and I love continuing to learn and curate information and make things understandable and accessible. That's a huge part of what I teach in my coaching practice. And so I define success by all of them. I used to, when I first started being very focused on the business success, and then I realized I have four other options. And I want to be intentional about spending, equal time, but I want to focus on all five outcomes, not just one. And I think when you're an entrepreneur can become so easy to become tunnel vision, with your business, because it's like studying when you're in school, there's never an end, until you take the test. And so for an entrepreneur, there's always something you're supposed to be doing. And I actually for awhile into this observation where I comment, color-coded how I spent my time, just so I could see, what, for each of the outcomes, where am I spending time? And I was blown away at how much time it was actually spending in my business. And I realized I needed to S to tip the scales a little bit more and focus on the other four. And so that's been a game changer and defining success and being at peace with success, because it is a it's five things.

Joe Newton:

That's really good to have that reminder that yeah. Success should be a well-rounded metric, not just a one and done there, unless, you want the other parts of your life to fall apart. But

Kyla Martin:

yeah, unfortunately, yes. And we see that a lot. And we know a lot of entrepreneurs who don't personally don't have any life outside of room. Yeah,

Joe Newton:

no, that is a really good reminder, cause that is a danger that we all as entrepreneurs have. Tell me, and I know we went over this a little bit earlier on, but when times have gotten tough, what's kept you from quitting up to this point.

Kyla Martin:

There's a coach I follow, and she has this concept called massive action. And massive action is that you keep taking action until you have the result that you. Which was such a powerful thought for me, because I think there is a playbook for what we're doing and there's going to be a lot of learnings along the way. And again, I'm just so grateful to God for casting, such a clear vision on my hearts and continuing to show me. That vision on a daily basis. That is why I don't quit. And someone asked me recently, how did you know that this was really what you were doing? And it was the day that I turned off my job alerts. I didn't even realize I had them back off, on, then I have this thought I'm not doing that anymore. I have my own business. So I think it's just continuing to. No that learning and trying new things are going to be part of it. And that's what we signed. That's what we signed up for. And I think that's really powerful. It's very reassuring to know that. Because then when it happens, it's not quite as unnerving.

Joe Newton:

I liked that I'm thinking that the Spanish burned their boats, but in modern times we turn off the job notifications question number five is, or what question should we have asked that we should.

Kyla Martin:

I just want your listeners to know that it, God has cast a vision on their hearts. That all that sand either way is some leftover primal urges. And that's okay. God is God's continuing to, let's face it. He evolves our humanity all the time. And we've seen that a lot in the light last year. And so I think it's so powerful to just know that your. If God has cast a vision the sort of Primal urges. You have. Aren't the reason to stop because when I talk to clients who have a passion for an area they're not pursuing the world, lost something that day, right there, there's a purpose that they might go to the grape whip, which breaks my heart because there is, there's such a beautiful gift that you've been anointed with. And so I just hope. You know your listeners to feel that we'll grab a friend or resource a community and encourage her to help them walk that path. Standing in the authenticity of the truth of what God created you to be. I feel like I see the world in color now. I feel like I used to live in black and white and people would have said, hi was the biggest optimist, most positive person on the planet. This is a whole other level that I experienced daily. And I'm literally living my dream life that God intended for me all along. And I want that for everyone. So I just encourage everyone to, take a small step find someone to walk that with you, because we need you. We need your gift. Some world. We need the the anointing to be experienced. We all need all of the gifts. I feel like if we were all working in our zone of genius, there would be so much less. Tension frustration, division. I All of the things that we see in the broken world that we live in and that, that would become more in color.

Joe Newton:

Oh, that's awesome. Tell us for those listening who want to either learn more about your coaching or just get connected more to what you're doing? Where can they find you? How can they.

Kyla Martin:

Thanks. So I'm at Kyla Martin consulting.com. I offer six months individual coaching. And then I also have a course that I offer. I find with my clients that learning and applying was such a powerful way to continue their own evolution. So the course includes two sessions with me and then a five modules. Depending on if you're in corporate America, there's a course. Or if you're already an entrepreneur, you might want to be an entrepreneur. That was a course. So two different ones. And then I'm on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube. You can just search for Kyler, Martin coaching. And then I also have a weekly video and email that I send out. So if you're interested, you can sign up for that under the inspiration tab on my way.

Joe Newton:

Awesome. Kyla, thank you so much. It was an honor to have you today.

Kyla Martin:

Thank you so much. What a blessing. Thanks you guys for this extraordinary

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